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Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.05 17:58:00 - [1] Originally by: Jim McGregor This crop circle was created in pitch black, with no sound whatsoever, while being filmed by night vision cameras by scientists. Its more than a thousand feet wide and seems to have been created in a impossibly short time. Pretty interesting stuff. Edit: Found more youtube stuff on it (and better, since the link above has problems with lip syncing etc): Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Well I watched the first link where he more or less just advertised the DVD for sale. And I caught the second link and that made me giggle. First they set the camera on the field on the left. You can call the static on the screen anything you want but that can happen by messing with the I/O cables. Then they got great footage of a car going down the road for the lights going across the fields factor. And finally they pan right to the other field to show this mysterious crop circle that formed out of no where. I'll be taking a look at the other links but so far I'm not impressed by the 'proof'. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 15:34:00 - [2] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/09/2007 15:05:54 Originally by: Celeste Coeval You seem to have disregarded my earlier statement about the fact all governments in the world never agree on anything. There are many governments that would revel in showing up the US on its cover ups. So who else besides NASA can show footage from space? The ESA doesnt focus on human spaceflight at all. NASA is the only source when it comes to pictures of the earth upper atmosphere, the space shuttle and so on. If NASA wants to cover something up, they have every opportunity to do so. No need for other governments to know about it or cooperate with it. Its a question of national security (or can be made to be). So that would mean that the photo's and footage that your favorite whacko's have would be coming from NASA. But if they have the footage then NASA apparantly let it out and never covered it up. or something. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 16:12:00 - [3] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Micheal Dietrich So that would mean that the photo's and footage that your favorite whacko's have would be coming from NASA. But if they have the footage then NASA apparantly let it out and never covered it up. or something. Some of the most interesting footage from NASA is coming from the movie "The Secret NASA Transmissions" that was released on video back in 2001. It got released by a guy named Martin Stubbs, a former cable TV station manager from Vancouver in Canada. During a period of five years he used his stations satellite array to record 2,500 hours of space shuttle transmissions via NASAs downlink. I wont bother posting anything from it again because I do realize you think everything up there is space junk flying around. Thats fine. Well if you would show something more than brights dots I could believe it. Unless thats all that aliens fly. I remember a program possibly back in the 90's that had supposed footage of aliens fighting in space. Anybody else ever see that? And you can also get footage from Japan and China. Japan has a satalite in space that's like the hubble. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 17:00:00 - [4] Originally by: Jim McGregor New digital camera technology. Then tell me why every damn photo is always blurry. Check this: My photo. UFO photo My null Photo UFO photo. Do ya see an obvious image difference. My camera aint even top of the line and yet it performs 10 times better than what these people seem to use. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 17:31:00 - [5] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 06/09/2007 17:34:31 Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 06/09/2007 17:32:27 Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/09/2007 17:08:17 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Jim McGregor New digital camera technology. Then tell me why every damn photo is always blurry. Check this: My photo. UFO photo My null Photo UFO photo. Do ya see an obvious image difference. My camera aint even top of the line and yet it performs 10 times better than what these people seem to use. Well, the first one is from 1947. But aside from that, I dont know why they dont hover close to the ground, allowing people to take pictures in daylight. Most pictures and videos are shapes in the sky, filmed many kilometers away with maximum zoom. Maybe their ships would damage us if we got close. I simply dont know. My first photo, that mountain is 8 miles away. No zoom was used. I have the ability to connect my camera to my telescope and with that I can give you fine details of the moon. I can show you scratches in the paint of a passing airplane. And the best zoom lense that we have out there for cameras can get a tigers expression from 8 miles away. You would think that one person out there could get a clear picture. Hell while I was searching up those ufo photo's I saw another one that had a ufo by a plane. You could see the jetstream from the plane clear as day and yet the UFO was smudgy. Why is that? Edit: I find it fascinating that we can take simply awesome photgraphs of objects billions of miles away and yet we can't get a clear picture of something in our atmosphere. Edit2: And I thought the 1968 photo was appropriate since your using the face in mars photo from the '70's. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 18:15:00 - [6] Originally by: Jim McGregor One of the many mexican ufo fleets sighted Things not in this video: birds, ballons, optical illusions. Why? They keep their formation the entire time. They move in the same direction with pretty high speed. They are filmed for a long time, and you have clouds as a reference to where they are in the sky. Apparantly You've never seen a flock of canadian geese fly. Amazingly it looks just like that! Those weren't geese though, too white. Tell the cameraman to turn the brightness down. I would say seagulls, but they don't fly in formation that well. If you wanna call that flying in formation, I mean that back portion was all over the place. More DUI aliens! And using clouds as a reference means jack. I wake up in the morning and I'm above the clouds. OMG, my house must be really high in the sky! Storm clouds fly low to the surface and the condensation makes em pretty heavy. And judging by the pashing of the clouds it's really not that fast. I single engine prop plane could go a bit faster than that. Now before you keep posting here, I suggest some sights you may want to visit. Mainly weather information sights so you can learn about the different degrees of clouds, and how it's possible that wind may be blowing NW where you stand, and yet higher up it could be blowing SE. The fact that wind acts like water current and can form 'whirlpools' (we call em dust devils around here) and levy's and many other things. Originally by: Jeff Foxworthy ...And rednecks are attracted to shiny objects. Have you ever noticed that? Beer....Bass boats....UFO's.....They won't go near a cruise boat unless you put a glitter on that thing. I promise you that if you show them a bass boat with a green glitter finish they will rob their grandma to have that thing. And these shiny objects are usually seen together. Usually they're in their bass boat holding a can of beer when they see a UFO..... ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 18:44:00 - [7] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/09/2007 18:26:05 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Apparantly You've never seen a flock of canadian geese fly. Amazingly it looks just like that! Those weren't geese though, too white. Tell the cameraman to turn the brightness down. I would say seagulls, but they don't fly in formation that well. If you wanna call that flying in formation, I mean that back portion was all over the place. More DUI aliens! And using clouds as a reference means jack. I wake up in the morning and I'm above the clouds. OMG, my house must be really high in the sky! Storm clouds fly low to the surface and the condensation makes em pretty heavy. And judging by the pashing of the clouds it's really not that fast. I single engine prop plane could go a bit faster than that. Now before you keep posting here, I suggest some sights you may want to visit. Mainly weather information sights so you can learn about the different degrees of clouds, and how it's possible that wind may be blowing NW where you stand, and yet higher up it could be blowing SE. The fact that wind acts like water current and can form 'whirlpools' (we call em dust devils around here) and levy's and many other things. I give this trolling 1 out of 5. yawn I will be posting here for a long time. Have fun reading me. Or not. Your choice. And please dont look at the other video I posted, because you will only post more crap like this as a response. It's a pitty when you can't back up your proof and resort to accusations such as trolling. I've mentioned camera clarity, wind predictions, cloud formations, and much much more and yet you have no answers for any of that. You go ahead and believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want, and we'll call each other crazy and ignorant. Better luck next time for you. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 19:05:00 - [8] Originally by: Jim McGregor One of the many mexican ufo fleets sighted The resemblence is uncanny UFO's at the Vatican going against the wind! ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 19:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Jim McGregor One of the many mexican ufo fleets sighted The resemblence is uncanny I thought we agreed not to discuss it... :) Anyway, if you look at the closeup, you dont see any wing animation like you would do if they were birds. The bird video clearly shows their wings moving even when not zoomed in. The formation is similar, but I dont see anything birdlike about the objects themselfs. But at least now we are talking without insulting eachother. Whats your view on the other video where the objects are standing still in the sky, and one of them look different to the rest? You told me not to look at that one since I would spout of anti-believer crap. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 19:57:00 - [10] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/09/2007 19:41:11 I actually did just a few posts back, but fine. Here: linked for your convenience. I found a link to another one from the comments posted to the above one. Its filmed in Lima, Peru, by a team that was out making a music video apparently. Lima, Peru, 20 may 2007. Make sure to look at 5:00 and forward in the video, thats the best part. They do some inversing of colors and stuff to show that there really are objects in the sky. Watch them move around. First one they're still moving, just very slowly. The cloud in the back is a stratocloud (higher up, doesn't move very fast.) I would've appreciated it though is the cameraman wasn't doped up on caffeine and could actually hold still for 2 seconds, especially when he finally zooms in. In any case maybe I'll take a trip down there in seven years when that event actually happens. As for the second it's very fascinating and I cannot explain it although I still don't believe it's aliens. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive

Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 20:05:00 - [11] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 06/09/2007 20:05:38 Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Micheal Dietrich In any case maybe I'll take a trip down there in seven years when that event actually happens. You still believe we will make it past 2012 then. Camera was timestamped 2014 so yeah. What happens in 2012? ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 20:12:00 - [12] Originally by: Blacksilk Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Jim McGregor One of the many mexican ufo fleets sighted The resemblence is uncanny UFO's at the Vatican going against the wind! You are taking the p*ss. The Mexican sightings have been going on for a long time now, especially noticeable around the airport. Learn to easy link Theres a lot more links I could post, but I'm sure you could find them yourself. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.06 20:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Cornucopian ooooo jim, when this thread dies, can we get into 2012?? that thread would kick assets! Originally by: DarkMatter How much you want to bet the world does not end? I sense danger. No really, what happens in 2012. And I had to look at the timestamp for a long time cause I thought it said 2034 but it's 2014. As for the links that I had to easylink, if you go to the wikipedia link you'll see another link to a news article about a scientist saying it was probably gases in the air and it goes on saying how alot believe it was real and stuff and that the military was involved but the military doesn't disclose information about ufo sightings because they don't believe in fraud findings. Zooooom on to the bottom link and it's a article stating the military colaborating with the story saying there were UFO's out there. So what happens in 2012? ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.11.18 18:57:00 - [14] Well this thread has turned into one big acid trip. Oh and welcome back Jimbo! ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive

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